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		<title>By: Jerryown</title>
		<link>http://www.brownsgab.com/2009/11/23/time-to-fix-the-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-11895</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerryown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mangini will coach the Browns the next year and the year after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mangini will coach the Browns the next year and the year after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.brownsgab.com/2009/11/23/time-to-fix-the-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-11889</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to be one of the most disappointed fans out there. Even to the point of giving up any hope of the Browns rebuilding a team. But I would never call a coach a &quot;child molester&quot;, no matter how much I disliked him as a coach. He has no personality, no coaching skills (along with his buddy Daboll), the Jets didn&#039;t like him either and fired him. He has not proven a single thing to me as of yet. He may be a loser as a person but but that&#039;s as far as it should go. Do the Browns need any tackling dunnies? Can I refer someone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to be one of the most disappointed fans out there. Even to the point of giving up any hope of the Browns rebuilding a team. But I would never call a coach a &#8220;child molester&#8221;, no matter how much I disliked him as a coach. He has no personality, no coaching skills (along with his buddy Daboll), the Jets didn&#8217;t like him either and fired him. He has not proven a single thing to me as of yet. He may be a loser as a person but but that&#8217;s as far as it should go. Do the Browns need any tackling dunnies? Can I refer someone?</p>
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		<title>By: pyelor</title>
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		<dc:creator>pyelor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seconded.  Football talk isn&#039;t personal...it&#039;s professional.  If you can&#039;t keep it that way here, you have not business being here.  Don&#039;t you think that maybe a few young ones might be reading this blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seconded.  Football talk isn&#8217;t personal&#8230;it&#8217;s professional.  If you can&#8217;t keep it that way here, you have not business being here.  Don&#8217;t you think that maybe a few young ones might be reading this blog?</p>
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		<title>By: Denolakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denolakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is absolutely no room for this type of stuff on any blog.  We are inundated with this type of discourse all over the web -- and frankly it shows to me, anyway, how low people have become.  I do not care for Mangini as a coach or from what I know of him as a person.  But he is a man with a family and children.  He might be an idiot professionally, but there is no justification for accusing him of anything this nasty.  Shame on you -- and shame on anyone who relishes in this kind of garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is absolutely no room for this type of stuff on any blog.  We are inundated with this type of discourse all over the web &#8212; and frankly it shows to me, anyway, how low people have become.  I do not care for Mangini as a coach or from what I know of him as a person.  But he is a man with a family and children.  He might be an idiot professionally, but there is no justification for accusing him of anything this nasty.  Shame on you &#8212; and shame on anyone who relishes in this kind of garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll bet that Mangoonie is a child molester.  just llok at him--you can tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bet that Mangoonie is a child molester.  just llok at him&#8211;you can tell.</p>
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		<title>By: pyelor</title>
		<link>http://www.brownsgab.com/2009/11/23/time-to-fix-the-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-11885</link>
		<dc:creator>pyelor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem keeping Mangini on the job assuming one things happens...a strong, credible head of football takes over and keeps Mangini on a very short leash and is not afraid to put him in his place when he steps out of line.  If he fails to get back in line, you take him out of the line...permanently.  He has to be a team player and not a &quot;me&quot; player.

Mangini is the head coach.  It is not his job to directly bring players in.  That&#039;s the GM&#039;s job.  The head coach can provide feedback but it&#039;s not his job or within his authority to make the final decision on signing players.  He should tell the GM what kind of player he wants and let the GM go after them so that Mangini can get back to &quot;teaching to process&quot;.

The other issue I have with Mangini&#039;s input is that we need to deal with teams other than the Jets.  That well has been tapped and dried out long ago.  Some say it was pretty dry before the Browns tapped it in the first place.

There are other teams with quality players that would work well within this system.  They may be in the starting lineup, sitting on the bench behind an entrenched veteran or on the practice squad but there are quality players out there on other teams...not just the Jets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem keeping Mangini on the job assuming one things happens&#8230;a strong, credible head of football takes over and keeps Mangini on a very short leash and is not afraid to put him in his place when he steps out of line.  If he fails to get back in line, you take him out of the line&#8230;permanently.  He has to be a team player and not a &#8220;me&#8221; player.</p>
<p>Mangini is the head coach.  It is not his job to directly bring players in.  That&#8217;s the GM&#8217;s job.  The head coach can provide feedback but it&#8217;s not his job or within his authority to make the final decision on signing players.  He should tell the GM what kind of player he wants and let the GM go after them so that Mangini can get back to &#8220;teaching to process&#8221;.</p>
<p>The other issue I have with Mangini&#8217;s input is that we need to deal with teams other than the Jets.  That well has been tapped and dried out long ago.  Some say it was pretty dry before the Browns tapped it in the first place.</p>
<p>There are other teams with quality players that would work well within this system.  They may be in the starting lineup, sitting on the bench behind an entrenched veteran or on the practice squad but there are quality players out there on other teams&#8230;not just the Jets.</p>
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		<title>By: ButchGavlen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ButchGavlen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be a huge mistake to change now. we just changed months ago, remember? It&#039;s a new scheme, and new head coach; a new set of coaches; a changing of the guard, if you will. we hired this guy to get rid of the dead wood and infestation of the like of winslow and edwards; when he does we cry, &#039;we have no play makers&#039;. he got rid of the play makers&#039;. Of course he did. he is drafting good, moldable players. it will take time. this time next year we&#039;ll see improvement, not  now. he is slow to bring along the draft pics for a purpose; not to get them killed and ruined. maybe he&#039;ll need to change a few things, but right now those players that he brought from the jets will MOSTLY be gone after tne new team starts to get built. his draft pics are good ones. all the cry-baby nay-sayers who claim to be fans, mostly don&#039;t know a thing about football. get the GM in place and let them work. the jets are the last ones who want to see him do good; what would that make t hem look like? and the espn media types think everything is NY; L James, the med mart, the rock Hall, etc. and the national media is &#039;owned&#039; by the NY area. wake up and stick together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a huge mistake to change now. we just changed months ago, remember? It&#8217;s a new scheme, and new head coach; a new set of coaches; a changing of the guard, if you will. we hired this guy to get rid of the dead wood and infestation of the like of winslow and edwards; when he does we cry, &#8216;we have no play makers&#8217;. he got rid of the play makers&#8217;. Of course he did. he is drafting good, moldable players. it will take time. this time next year we&#8217;ll see improvement, not  now. he is slow to bring along the draft pics for a purpose; not to get them killed and ruined. maybe he&#8217;ll need to change a few things, but right now those players that he brought from the jets will MOSTLY be gone after tne new team starts to get built. his draft pics are good ones. all the cry-baby nay-sayers who claim to be fans, mostly don&#8217;t know a thing about football. get the GM in place and let them work. the jets are the last ones who want to see him do good; what would that make t hem look like? and the espn media types think everything is NY; L James, the med mart, the rock Hall, etc. and the national media is &#8216;owned&#8217; by the NY area. wake up and stick together.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerryown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerryown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Rob Ryan.  Without Mangini, he&#039;s not here and Oakland has 5 wins right now.  

That said, there is not much talent on the team yet.  The veteran guys he brought in played okay.  We should not have expected more.  

They started over rookies.  That is a good thing.  Guys stay a year in the system, develop and then come in to make an impact when they are needed.  You cannot expect to find NFL starting linebackers in the 4th round who are going to put their team in the playoffs.  

I don&#039;t think the &quot;time&quot; argument is out just yet.  I would refer to the 11 draft picks and the 3 years remaining on Brady Quinn&#039;s contract as positives going into next season.  We have gotten a look at Jennings, not bad.  M&amp;M looks like he may be something down the line.  

I will go on record here and say I thought the Crennel firing did not make sense.  The team is still paying him.  Come on!  He had one year left and so did most of his players.  If it doesn&#039;t work, you get a new coach and a new roster.  Fortunately, if Mangini is let go, most of the guys now are on short contracts also.  I still don&#039;t think it makes sense yet, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Rob Ryan.  Without Mangini, he&#8217;s not here and Oakland has 5 wins right now.  </p>
<p>That said, there is not much talent on the team yet.  The veteran guys he brought in played okay.  We should not have expected more.  </p>
<p>They started over rookies.  That is a good thing.  Guys stay a year in the system, develop and then come in to make an impact when they are needed.  You cannot expect to find NFL starting linebackers in the 4th round who are going to put their team in the playoffs.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the &#8220;time&#8221; argument is out just yet.  I would refer to the 11 draft picks and the 3 years remaining on Brady Quinn&#8217;s contract as positives going into next season.  We have gotten a look at Jennings, not bad.  M&amp;M looks like he may be something down the line.  </p>
<p>I will go on record here and say I thought the Crennel firing did not make sense.  The team is still paying him.  Come on!  He had one year left and so did most of his players.  If it doesn&#8217;t work, you get a new coach and a new roster.  Fortunately, if Mangini is let go, most of the guys now are on short contracts also.  I still don&#8217;t think it makes sense yet, though.</p>
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